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retweeted photo of all time. ellen's selfie from the oscars. >> here's a good one. i'm more famous. no, i'm more famous. i'm the most famous. you only need to see the eyes. another good one is nobody puts president underwood in the back of the photo. if you see kevin spacey there. >> house of cards, house of cards. who we don't see is liza minelli who is in the back. if you look from the back, she's in the front. that is it for "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ hollywood hollywood ♪ >> when i was here, last year, cate blanchett was nominated and merle streep was nominated and leo dinardo dicaprio was nominated. what is important in life is love and friendship and family and if people don't have those
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things, then they usually get into showbiz. you should think of yourself as winners. not all of you but the people who have won before can think of yourself as winners. i know what you're thinking, ellen, that is easy for you to say. you've been chosen to host and that is the highest award there is. thank you. >> good morning. it's monday, march 3rd. with us on set washington anchor from bbc news, katty kay and mike barnicle and the host of "way too early" thomas roberts. >> good morning. >> >> mark halpern. in washington, the former chairman of the rnc, michael steele. the associate editor and columnist for "the washington post" david magazine nay shus.
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as the show? >> it was all solid. that tweet that she did, the most retweeted tweet of all time i think was emblematic of the evening. i would say no surprise winners. >> no. beginning with best picture at the end of the show as most people expected, "12 years a slave" did win that award. they cleaned up. i think "gravity" won seven awards. >> "american hustle" was shut out. >> that surprised me. >> it got nothing at all. "gravi "gravity" and "american hustle" entered with ten nominations but "gravity" won seven of those. "american hustle" went home empty-handed joining "true grit" and "gangs of new york" empty-handed. "12 years a slave" winning best
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picture and john ridley won for best adapted screen play. last night, he spoke about how he got his big break. >> i started writing in sitcoms a long time ago and i was gracious to have a script coordinator to read everything i wrote. when she thought it was ready, she put a smiling face at the end and i knew it was a good job done. gayle, see youing here tonight, smile. you take away all of that soul crushing. >> what you need to know about john ridley, an incredibly talent and as great as he is, he really got his roots here at "morning joe" is what we like to say any way. i guess it was about seven years ago in secaucus or wherever our studio was, joe, mika, myself and john ridley sat around a table. >> so he went on to win an oscar? >> yeah. and i'm still sitting around the
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table but it was so cool to see john get that award. we are so proud of him and he is so talented. >> absolutely to all of that. >> he is than incredible guy. as he would tell you, "undercover brother" was his finest piece of writing. got you, ridley. we love you. winning first oscar was lupita nyongo. >> it doesn't escape me for one moment that so much joy in my life is thanks so so much pain in someone else's. when i look down at this golden statue may it remind me every little child, no matter where you're from, your dreams are valid. >> how big of a star is she going to be? >> what a dress! a great actress but that was a fantastic dress. in a night i don't know what y'all think, but there were not very many standout dresses.
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>> i noticed her dress but yints it was -- >> what else do you look at the oscars? what is the point? >> film editing mostly. >> cinematography. >> matthew mcconknee won as best actor in "dallas buyers club." >> every month, every day and every day of my life my hero, i'm not going to be my hero and that is fine with me because that keeps me to keep on chasing. to so any of us, whatever those things are, whatever it is we look up to, whatever we look forward to and whoever we are are chasing, to that, i say, amen. to that, i say, all right, all right, all right. just keep living. >> all right, all right, all right. >> those were the first words that john told me his first words on screen as an actor. all right, all right, all right. >> he is incredible. what a run he is having right now, "true detective" and he
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wins the oscar. his co-star jarrett leto also won for "dallas buyers club." >> and cate blanchett won for "blue jasmine." ellen degeneres breaking a record with twitter. bradley holding the camera. jennifer lawrence and merle streep and julia roberts. it's been retweeted more than 2 million times. >> who is the brother right there, the guy? >> in the glasses? he scored an epic spot right there which is great and poor liza minelli in the back trying to climb over the back and couldn't get there. >> her brother is right there. >> this broke the previous record for retweets held by president obama when he was re-elected so there you go. >> it was a good night.
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>> we will have pizza delivered. we knew ellen would do a good job. james lipton will be on later in the show and dive in deeper and get you some of the winners but big news around the world. >> there has been a lot of news over the weekend. what a busy weekend in ukraine. old foes sizing up each other. russian forces take over in crimea. thousands of russian troops moved in some in unmarked uniforms and other surrounding the army base in this important region. the prime minister of ukraine has called the action a declaration of war. russian ships are off the coast and the head of the ukrainian navy rah now surrendered. vladimir putin said revolutionary groups in ukraine have endangered the lives of russians there and not clear which action the united states or nato will take and if
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anything will curtail. putin's army is short of force. president obama and top officials spent the weekend phoning european leaders to try to build a united front. european leaders are isolating russia diplomatically and the strongest language came from the secretary of state. >> president putin is not operating from a place of strength here. yanukovych was thrown out, despite putin's support. an active aggression that is trumped up in terms of its pretext. it's really 19th century behavior in the 21st century. the fact is he going to lose on the international stage. russia is going to lose. the russian people are going to lose. he is going to lose all of the glow that came out of the olympics. his 60 billion dollar extravaganza. he may not remain in the g-8 if this continues. >> joining us now from ukraine is nbc news foreign
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correspondent ian williams. protests are breaking out all over ukraine. do people think that russia is trying to ferment unrest in the country now? >> reporter: that's the big fear, that russia is trying to create chaos, particularly here in the east of ukraine in order to justify further intervention. you may see over my left shoulder the pro russian protest camp here in the second biggest city in ukraine and dominates the industrial heartland of the east. these pro russian protesters are surrounding this vast statue of lenn lennon. pictures of their own dead and riot policemen who died in clashes with kiev with the protesters. at the weak end we saw violent and sinister developments in this city. violence when more than a hundred protesters were injured in clashes between pro russian
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supporters and supporters of the government in kiev. then a hard-core of pro russian protesters stormed the government building here taking control of it and hoisting the russian flag on the roof. now, today, the riot police are back in control in the ukrainian flags are up there but, again, all of this stoke being fears that russia's game plan here will be to so unrest in this region in order to justify intervention but here it may well not be -- won't be as clinical as what we have seen in crimea. although it's russian speaking here and a lot of ethnic russians suspicious toward that new government in kiev, it will be far more messy because there won't be that degree of support for russian intervention. >> ian williams there in ukraine, thank you very much. let's go to david now in washington. david, how precarious is this situation at the moment?
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>> talking to officials of the u.s. government last night, they think it's very precarious. secretary kerry said it bluntly this is a brazen act of aggression of russia. the u.s. just doesn't know whether putin is moving toward a confrontation across ukraine that would challenge the new government in kiev or whether this is really going to be limited more to the areas most strategic to russia in the crimea where the russian fleet is based. as one person said it to me last night, we are really playing this by ear. secretary kerry had strong words about the diplomatic and economic consequences that russia will pay for this action but it's obvious in every statement that's made that the u.s. does not seek, does not want a military challenge to this action.
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i was told that not a ship is moving in the mediterranean, not have been put on maneuvers that might be seen as provocative. for much the response is diplomatic and perhaps sanctions and economic. >> david, now we understand that americans now understand seemingly that putin does not care what we think, does not care about the language that secretary kerry used yesterday on american television, is it now sort of a counundrum do we prove we are tougher than putin which is maybe impossible or do we prove we are sensible and how do we do this? >> ideally the two pay a cost a real and lasting cost for putin
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while, at the same time a catastrophic military confrontation between nato and russia and it's walking that line that is really the challenge for the administration. the u.s. has not been loud or forceful in the weeks in the run-up to this and i think people may fault the administration for not having said more publicly. again, the sense i get from people is they know this is really a dangerous situation. president obama talked for 90 minutes with putin on saturday. that is described as a tough conversation which president obama really said, these are the costs, the potential costs for you in russia if you persist, if you don't roll back this invasion. i'm sure the president was unspecific about the costs other than diplomatic. the most observe thing the g-8 summit that putin was planning a
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diplomatic version of the olympics if you will on president evans, that is not going to happen. >> the president faces another tough front. congress, while members aren't calling for u.s. military involvement, many are less than impressed with president obama's performance so far. >> i think putin is playing chess and i think we're playing marbles, and i don't think it's even close. when you look at the nuclear we got our fannies handed to us. >> every time the president goes on national television and threatens putin or anybody like putin, everybody's eyes roll, including mine. we have a weak and indecisive president that invites aggression. >> "wall street journal" writes, in part. ukraine is in particular a casualty of mr. obama's failure to enforce his red line on syria. when the leader of the woverled's only superpower issues a military ultimatum and then blinks, others notice.
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adversaries will be watching president obama's response now. china has its eyes on japanese islands. iran is counting on u.s. weakness in nuclear talks. the iranians can't be left alone to face russia. ukraine must remain an independent state with current borders intact to follow its democratic will to join the european union and nato if it desires. the world is full of revisionist powers and bad actors looking at to splot the openi-- -- willie,m for the president from all fronts but very few people actually suggesting that there should be some sort of american military response here. everyone is focused on the economy. >> mostly putting sanctions and things on there. let's go to michael steele in washington. among other things this is a test of the west.
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what should the president do right now? what is the appropriate thing to do at this point? >> i think that president putin will find and realize that the move into crimea was a move too far and i think it solidified the president ability to go public in a big, strong way, irrespective of those who want to say what he has not said up to now, to lay down the law on sanctions, to lay down the law on the g-8. certainly, you know, doing the obvious pulling out of meetings and things like that on the diplomatic level means something, but it will hit russia in a big way. i really think that the ace in the hole for the president will be the bank. the banking system in russia which is very much tied into the european market and into the american economy in ways that i think putin will regret pursuing this line of work, this line of
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work, if you will. there's a front to whatever has taken as an international standard of respecting the democratic process. i think the other side of this on the political piece is, yeah, you have a lot of folks saying what the president didn't do this, the president didn't do that, but as you noted, short of telling, you know, the president to sent troops in to russia. i don't think much you'll see in terms of noise from the right or the left from washington. they will give the president the latitude to do this right and it's moving fast. i think the front will play some cards this week will show he is prepared to take putin on. >> to michael's point about trying to take the eagle off vladimir putin and diminish it that way and coming off the heels of sochi where he had a successful winter games and part of his legacy but is that what the president needs to do? cement the image that putin is not an honest broker and we
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can't pretend he is when it comes to world events given what he has done with this progressive move in crimea? >> "the new york times" says merkel told the president that putin is not in touch with reality and in another world. president reagan never faced a soviet leader like this. putin is ruthless. i think the best thing president has for him it brief the congress and keep them on board. the president has to be seen as the leader of the united nato front and i don't think he has a lot of cards to play. "the wall street journal" says the media saying there aren't a lot of cards to play. i read the editorial carefully. not a lot in there the president isn't already considering but putin it's almost like dealing with the north koreans. it's russian roulette with a guy who is unstable and isn't going to play by the right rules. i think time is on putin's side.
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the best the president can do is have a unified world coalition and hope putin blinks but i think it's very difficult to see why putin would blink because military bases are too valuable. >> david, continuing with that theme of angela merkel's thoughts on putin and according to american officials, some american officials, putin, he will look you right in the eye and lie to you without regard to the reality on the ground. i was particularly struck at this moment of crisis internationally and nationally in a sense with lindsey graham's comments about eye rolling. now he is involved in a right wing primary. he is being primaried on the right down in south carolina. does this -- do words like this from other senators in such a precarious moment have any impact at all on the global stage within russia among the parliament in russia? >> i was surprised, mike, that
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lindsey gram chose such almost sneering comments of the u.s. president in the time of crisis. i must say after vladimir putin, the president of russia invades a neighboring country of russia to say a fault of the united states seems to me a stretch. i would be surprised if lindsey graham's response is a general one, even in washington, let alone around the world. the thing about vladimir putin is that i think he is a historical roman ta romantacist. really in part what the sochi olympics were about. to the extent he is caught up in that unrealistic vision what is possible for russia, he may go further down a road of mistake,
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of miscalculation. if he moves troops deeper into ukraine, if he moves toward a civil war situation in ukraine, that's a catastrophic error for him to make. again, u.s. will have to decide how to respond in a calibrated way, but the mistake is putin's. it did struck me as odd, as it did you, to see lindsey graham talk about this as obama's program. >> let's move, though, to that fantastic winter storm that is causing havoc outside and is going to make my day really tricky getting back to d.c. that storm now threatens the mid-atlantic. new jersey is in a state of emergency. places like atlantic city could get more than a foot of snow. this is march, guys. the federal government in d.c. has closed its offices and
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congress is cancelling business today. missouri and indiana have already seen heavy snow leaving roads a mess as the system moved through parts of the deep south, it left behind heavy ice and slick roads. already causing trouble there. let's go to the bbc's meteorologist bill karins. >> bbc's? nbc's. sorry! >> i'm so sorry, bill. i let the secret out. listen, bill, am i going to get back to d.c. later this morning? >> you want the new england forecast first? >> you don't need to send me that far. >> take you across the channel? let's talk about what we are dealing with here in the d.c. for the most part, washington, d.c. is on track for 6 to 10 inches of and for march a huge ordeal. only once have we had a double digit snowfall in march in d.c. and a superstorm in 1993. if you're heading outside right
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now, new york city north wards no issues whatsoever. philadelphia about 2 inches on the ground. you can see it's still snowing right now. moderate snow through maryland, delaware, southern jersey and also now through virginia. the richmond area just blows my mind that richmond can get that much snow. 3 to 6 inches possible by the time we are done. kentucky we are starting to clear it out. about dinnertime all of the snow is pretty much over but d.c., 6 to 10. baltimore 4 to 8. philly i got you 2 to 4 and probably only 2 more additional inches and nothing if anything in new york. sleet yesterday in dallas and zero windchill right now in dallas, texas in march, guys. it's unbelievable how cold it is for this time of year. it's mid january in the middle of the country. >> that is incredible weather. back to katty. she should get on the oscella? >> i wouldn't drive and you probably won't get a flight back in. >> you'll be back opening day. >> of what?
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>> baseball. >> oh, man. >> bill, thanks so much. >> so much to learn. senator chris murphy of connecticut and james lipton will join us to talk about last nice's oscars and rosy perez and also secretary penny pritzker. we will be right back with more "morning joe." iwe don't back down. we only know one direction: up so we're up early. up late. thinking up game-changing ideas, like this: dozens of tax free zones across new york state. move here. expand here. or start a new business here... and pay no taxes for 10 years. with new jobs, new opportunities
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into custody after strapping themselves to the white house fence and blocking the sidewalk there. demonstrators called on president obama to reject the keystone pipeline. they say it will worsen global warming. most of the protesters were students. "the boston globe." the murder trial for oscar business torious is under way. he is charged with fatally shooting his girlfriend in his home on valentine's day in 2013. the athlete known as blade runner pleaded not guilty this morning to all four charges against him. he claims he thought steencamp was an intruder. the trial is expected to last for three weeks. >> de blasio is blocking charters schools after they were already approved by former mayor michael bloomberg. the head of the charter schools is cancelling classes on tuesday and bussing parents and students to albany for a protest.
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de blasio says he is reversing bloomberg's poor decisions. "the new york times." scientists found a rare gene mutation that protects people from getting type two diabetes despite their age and their weight. the gene reduces the risk of getting diabetes by two-thirds. drug companies hope to use the mutation to develop new medications but it could take about ten to 20 years to get that drug off the market. >> the "chicago tribune." jimmy fallen take is an icy dip in lake michigan yesterday and did it in a full suit and tie. thousands of people jumped into the cold water for chicago's annual polar plunge to raise money for the special olympics. jimmy doing it with chicago mayor rahm emanuel who agreed to appear on "the tonight show" with jimmy's partial yesterday in the polar plunge. the temperature in the water was 32 degrees. >> is that what we have to do if we want to get on morning joe?
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>> was that rahm in the bear suit? >> i don't know but great fashion choices there. >> rahm was in one of those green shirts if i have that right but i like the full suit and tie look for jimmy. well done, sir. with us now is mike allen of politico and has a look at his world famous playbook. good morning. >> good morning. >> what are your lead stories on politico about marco rubio aiming for a comeback? i guess the question is why does he need a comeback with conservatives? >> rubio had a rough year last year. conservatives turned on him because of the leadership he played on immigration. when vandehei unveiled the playbook snapshot of the 2016 race here on "morning joe" the other day, we called senator rubio recovering. and we are now able to put a little more meat on that bone. senator rubio wants to show aggressive and agile. one of the first republicans to talk about venezuela over the weekend.
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senator rubio was out there giving an eight-point plan for what president obama should be doing with ukraine. on the domestic side, we have seen him talking about a republican war on poverty. we have seen him talking about how college students can do better. he is going to play a role in some key midterm races. he has already started doing some fund-raising even down in the south where they don't like his stand on immigration. and on the foreign policy front we just saw senator rubio finish up swings in asia and europe. so he wants to show that he is the whole package, not just a great communicator. it's reported in the story that it looks like a presidential run by senator rubio is increasingly likely. on "meet the press" yesterday he said a lot of problems in this country. it's a matter whether i can help. a politician like marco rube io
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can always help. >> is this the foundational groundwork for 2016? >> i think so. i don't think he put both toes into a presidential run. for a lot of reasons mike laid out, he has to reassure his base tea party supporters at home and those who support him around the country that he is still with them. the issue of immigration won't go away. some other thorny issues he and other senators of tea party backed have to talk about. gay marriage and civil rights legislation needs to be addressed. the talk is dragreat and positioning is part of the process, but ultimately it boils down how you vote and what you're fighting for and i think battles the senator still has to work through. >> another story, mike allen, you're looking at is weed in california. california has a reputation of being one of the most liberal
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states, well earned in the country but it's democratic governor is concerned about the possible side effects of legalizing marijuana. here is governor jerry brown on "meet the press" yesterday. >> if there is advertising and legitimacy, how many people can get stoned and still have a great state or a great nation? the world is pretty dangerous. very competitive. i think we need to stay alert, if not 24 hours a day, more than some of the potheads might be able to put together. >> mike allen, that is the question for our age. how many people can get stoned? >> that's right. jerry brown was a remarkable messenger for the 75. he just announced last week he is going to run again. he is already the longest serving california governor going for a fourth term. but someone needs to send a memo to governor brown and that is that california now has medicinal marijuana and you talk to just about anyone in california, it's pretty darn easy to get pot if you want to. >> i know.
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>> mike, speaking of getting stoned, where are you appearing from today? it looks like in assisted living room background. >> i'm in the prestigious washington bureau of nbc news. >> are you really? >> right across from the andrea mitchell memorial chair. >> quite a set you have behind you with the blue lights. >> looks like a nightclub. >> bring a few more bucks to put in there. >> mike's opium den. >> the red thing is a modified bong, right? >> mike allen, a look at the playbook. thanks so much. >> have a great week. >> incredible shot. everything on the line. just how long was this tournament winning putt? "morning joe" sports is next. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work.
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did not have a good night. it's about a group of crooked stockbrokers are almost over the
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top it's almost cartoonish. the only way it could be more cartoonish is if it was actually a cartoon. we took the audio of wolf of wall street and combined it from video of one in the animated category and the results are thus. >> i got to say i'm incredibly excited to be a part of your firm. the clients you have are absolutely [ bleep ] clients. >> move the money from your client's pocket into your pocket. >> right. >> a success. this graphic is cocaine. up to your ears. >> you're able to do drugs during the day and still function and still do your job. >> [ bleep ] to do your job. cocaine and others, my friend. >> welcome to "morning joe." time for a little sports. let's start in florida. the honda classic not a good day for tiger woods. about a month to the masters now is force to do withdraw after 13 holes due to back pain and
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walked off the course. the injury came out toward the end of last season. woods shot a 40 on the front nine, 5 over in the round before he turned in his scoring card. he was well out of contention. rory mcilroy threw away a lead late in the round but threw it away with this eagle putt you pushed right and forcing a four-way playoff. russell henley makes a birdie putt to win the honda classic. >> i wonder how that car is floating in that water. >> did you see this? lpga tour yet. paula creamer. 75 feet if she can make it. curls. bends. eventually -- >> get up! >> it's in the hole! >> on the 18th hole. that is good for the hsbc women's championship in singapore. her first lpga win in seven years. did it with a 75-foot putt.
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>> she is happy. >> yes, she is. >> to make a 75-foot putt and win a tournament, you're in. those of you want to have russell wilson's name on your back all year-round, whatever that means. texas rangers began selling wilson merchandise over the weekend as the super bowl winning quarterback prepares to make his visit to rangers camp today. the jerseys are in. they are selling fast. replica home white jerseys like the one pictured here and red and blue t-shirt available at the spring training team store. he was here last week telling us about how excited he was to go down today. he was a great baseball player. and run the bases a little bit and have some fun with the rangers. >> i bet he is not going to take bp. he might take bp but not do much else. >> he is just going to suit up. >> one of the nicest guys. 25 years old. i hate him. ha ha. >> coming up next an exclusive look at this year's "forbes"
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welcome back to "morning joe." joining us now on set is the editor of "forbes" magazine, randall lane. he is here with an exclusive look at their annual bill nair's issue. good to see you. >> great to see you. >> we will look at the list in a second. we are just discussing broadly how young some of the people on this list are and how they are becoming rich and successful. >> if you look at human history for millions of years, experience, putting your time, building up your pile is necessary to become rich. now it is a detriment.
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think about if your computer is broken, do you want a 50-year-old person to fix it on 25-year-old person. these people think digitally and differently and come up with ideas that older people can't not because they are not smart is because they weren't brought up digitally. now billionaires in their 20s and 30s is commonplace. >> who is on the cover of the magazine. we are discussing whatsapp. >> this is the american dream. this is a kid who came from the ukraine when he was 15, his father had died in the ukraine or shortly thereafter. his mother gets cancer and she dies and he is by himself. he is on welfare. when he signed this deal last week, he gave us a photo. he e-mailed us a photo we then tweeted where he went to his old welfare office and he signed the deal on the door of the welfare office, $19 billion. he is personally worthy to be on
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this list. 6.8 billion is after tax. we factored in the tax. 6.8 billion. that is america. >> that is america. an incredible story and i'm struck by the constant phrase of wealth creation when it applies to the whatsapp guy and other young people. mark zuckerberg and cheryl sandburg. you hear less and less the phrase job creation, which is, obviously, a huge issue in this country right now. >> if you look at whatsapp as an example they are creating jobs but that is an app. that is something the entire world -- people in america were shocked by this deal because very few people use whatsapp because we have texting as part of our plan. the rest of the world is saving them. that is adapting worldwide and started by an american company and that is outbout by another american company so there is job creation there. that is why you hear about kim
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and people smile. you hear about wall street. six wall street hedge fund managers on this list who made a billion dollars in one year and cash they just took in. i think that is where the resentment is. there is a perception they are not creating ying where kim is creating things, he is creating innovation and he is bringing -- all staying in america. it's when you see these wall street fortunes they are pushing paper around i think where you get the backlash. >> let's look at the list of your top ten, who is topping out the world's wealthiest person. >> bell gates after four years speaking about america. america is number one again. carlos slim has been the richest man in the world for four years. and bill gates who has been -- we have been doing this 28 years and bill gates has been number one the 15th time. majority of the time the last third of the century bill gates is the richest man in the world.
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most of his money is not in microsoft. it's the market overall. it was a great year to be a bill nair. we had new records for billionaires. >> you're telling me? >> a lot of new ones. >> that is the first one. >> there are a lot of new ones. 1,645 billionaires in the world. >> david ignatius in washington. you look at this list and it's the story what we have been talking about so much on this program over the last few months, which is that income inequality and the growth in that here. >> this is the 1% of the 1% of the 1%. i'm wondering, randall, after a weekend like this with the world in such turmoil, even uproar, whether these fantastically rich people get nervous or maybe you get so rich after awhile you don't care what is happening in ukraine. what is your guess? do they come into the office this morning with, you know, new strategies to sell this and buy that and take advantage of
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trouble? >> i mean, obviously it's country by country. you actually see -- you saw this weekend where the interukrainian country were talking about pushing other people into the position to stabilize things. in some of these countries an opportunity to build bridges. i think if you look what is happening with the giving pledge which has now gone global, i think a perception. warren buffett, use him as an example. he is a public trust. he is giving away 99% of his money. when you see his number four on this list and he is worth $58 billion but that is all eventually going to go to goods. i think there is some of the super wealthy have a feeling that that -- they need to do that, to send a signal to the world that, you know, these dollars are so big, they are almost points. warren said this a bunch of times where he goes and says, you know what? i think every billionaire should give away half of their money and if they can't, i'll write a book how to live on $500
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million. >> is there a story there are no saudis on this list? >> there are some saudis. prince allawa is in the top 50, i think. the larger point is energy and sitting on a bunch of oil is not where the action is. there is action obviously in tech. there are more new retail billionaires than tech. 35 retail billionaires. the business of buying things is still very good. >> mark zuckerberg last year worth $13.3 billion and this year $28.5. >> nobody in the world made more money in the past 12 months than mark zuckerberg. >> he is 29, everybody. incredible. randall, a great issue. thanks so much. "forbes" billionaire's list is out now. david remnick was the bureau chief for "the post" in
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>> i started writing in sitcoms a long time ago and i was gracious to have a script coordinator to read everything i wrote. when she thought it was ready, she put a smiling face at the end and i knew it was job done. gayle, seeing you here tonight, smiling. you take away all of that soul crushing. and adequacy. >> that is john ridley accepting the oscar last night for best adapted screen play for "12 years a slave." we are so excited for him here at msnbc. joining the table is the president and ceo of the aspen institute, walter isaacson. and political director and host of "the daily rundown "in washington, chuck todd. last hour we were talking about john ridley. he was here on the very first days of "morning joe" before he went on. he has gone off to bigger and
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better things as well. on a night of big moments for that was the biggest moment. we are so happy for john ridley getting that statue. "gravity" a big winner in terms of number of statues winning seven oscars including best direct than and cinematography. the best picture wen to "12 years a slave." and winning first oscar was lupita nyongo. . >> every month, every day and every day of my life my hero, i'm not going to be my hero and that is fine with me because that keeps me to keep on chasing. to so any of us, whatever those things are, whatever it is we look up to, whatever we look forward to and whoever we are chasing, to that, i say, amen. to that, i say, all right, all right, all right. just keep living.
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thank you. >> that is man who knows his roots and going back to "days of confused." 1993, all right, all right, all right. congratulations to him. his co-star jared leto won for actor in a supporting role. jared leto did he win for talking about his mother for most of his speech? >> anybody who stands up on stage and says my mother is great. >> he shouted out ukraine like 15 minutes into the show. we didn't see that coming. >> to the whole world. >> cate blanchett won best actress for her performance in "blue jasmine." and ellen degeneres took twitter afire when she took this selfie and asked people to make it the most retweeted tweet of all time. it was more than 12 million times last tiand shattering the
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record set by president obama. look at who all is in the picture. bradley cooper taking the photograph. >> look at her dress. >> there is liza minelli in the darker of the blue dresses to the right there climbing up the back of kevin spacey. >> look at the back of lupita's dress? just incredible. >> james lipton will be on later on this hour. big news happening in ukraine. >> an awful lot of news coming out over the course of the weekend and today. secretary of state john kerry is traveling to ukraine today as a show of support for the new government there. over the weekend, thousands of russian troops moved in. the prime minister of ukraine has called the action a declaration of war. russian ships are now off the coast and the head of the ukrainian navy has surrendered. it's not yet clear which course
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of action the united states or nato will take and, if anything will curtail putin's army short of force. president obama and top officials spent the weekend phoning european leaders to try to build a united front. european leaders are exploring economic sanctions. isolating russia diplomatically and the strongest language came from the secretary of state. >> president putin is not operating from a place of strength here. yanukovych was thrown out, despite putin's support. an active aggression that is completely trumped up in terms of its pretext. it's really 19th century behavior in the 21st century. the fact is he going to lose on the international stage. russia is going to lose. the russian people are going to lose. he is going to lose all of the glow that came out of the olympics. his 60 billion dollar extravaganza. he is not going to have a sochi g-8. he may not even remain in the
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g-8 if this continues. >> secretary kerry throwing haymakers there on "meet the press" yesterday. how is the white house handling this, chuck? they have come under a lot of pressure from members of congress and world leaders as well. what are they thinking right now? what is the strategy in regards russia? >> it's what katty pointed out is get everybody united. nato and g-7 united and three realistic options being pondered. number one is what kerry pointed out there. a symbolic gesture like suspending or kicking russia out of the g-8 and making it a g-7. they are announced they have suspended activity for the upcoming g-8 meeting what which was scheduled to be in russia and another step would be schedule another gech-7 meeting the same time and the other two options are economic. number one is some sort of sanctioning the three largest
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banks in russia are state-run bank and some isolation of those banks. we have seen the russian stock market has already cradled. a third and tougher thing to implement for the united states but an option they are looking at has to do with essentially convincing the european union to cancel their contracts with russia, their energy contracts. over time, maybe six months, maybe a year, but perhaps just the threat of that would get russia to move on this, but you would replace that -- those energy contracts with here in the united states and in the gulf states in the middle east. those are sort of the three realistic options from what i understand that the white house is thinking about. >> walter, even the most hawkish hawks aren't suggesting that this calls for some kind of u.s. military action. the europeans don't want military action and we don't know what president putin wants
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at the moment. how worrying is this situation at the moment? >> i think it would be bad to solve it right away. i think that putin has overreached. we don't overreach. the economic sanctions are going to be pretty tough on him. it's going to isolate him from the world community which is why he spent all of that money on the olympics. so i think he should be careful of what he just did and i think we should react cautiously. we have seen this movie before. the russians have done this often and never worked to their advantage. >> let's bring in senator murphy. joining us from washington is chris murphy of connecticut. senator, thanks for being with us. >> sure. >> people just tuning in and what, first of all, is the russian game here? what is putin after? >> i think go in eyes wide open. pretty clear that putin is trying to recapture a form of group of satellite states and
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republics and going on in georgia in 2008. the motivation behind his invasion of ukraine. i guess what is frustrating to me why the europeans aren't more exercised about this. because five years ago, it was ridiculous to think that putin would invade ukraine and maybe it's ridiculous today to think he might someday take action against pole land or hungary or the balantics. they hold the power in terms of trying to tighten the purse strings on putin because who knows who is next in this guy's extra territorial ambitions. >> senator, it's katty kay here. chuck todd laid out the options that the administration is looking at and some of them are in conjunction with the europeans as you suggested. how effective do you think those would be in getting president putin to withdrawal his troops from the ukraine? do you think effectively the
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west can win this? >> i think walter's point is right in that the entire reason for the extravagance of the olympics was to build more economic support and economic investment in russia. that has gone out the window. the current stock market cratered overnight. ultimately if europe and the united states join together in crippling economic sanctions, i don't know whether it's going to convince him to leave crimea because that is bad sort of historical and psychological connection to the region. but it certainly will change his behavior if he ever thinks about this again. but, again, the importance here is convincing europeans that as dependent as they have become on russian money over the years, it's in their interest to draw a hard line and the good news in congress, i think, from what i can tell the last three days talking to my colleagues, you'll see republicans and democrats pretty easily joining together to support a tough sanctions regime. >> secretary kerry is going to
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kiev. what would you like to see him do there? how could he use that time most productively? >> again, the interesting thing here is that crimea is about 2 million people. 2 million of 45 million. so the fact that 42 or 43 million people now are essentially being pushed away from an allegiance to russia in their move towards europe is ultimately really damaging to russia in the long run and why secretary kerry says this isn't really in russia's interest. what i hope he goes there to talk about is the fact that the imf now, with the united states support, has to step up with a pretty big package and it's in the neighborhood of $15 billion and can't come with strings attached there too tough. i hope he is there talking, you know, is not yu about political
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support but for economic support that ultimately will be the undoing of russia because if the rest of ukraine, say, for crimea each if they were cleave off join with the european union that is horribly damaging for russia and putin's ambitions. >> michael steele has a question for you. >> a quick question. in terms of the sanctions and what the president can do right now and having the members of the congress behind him, how are you also weighing the developments of venezuela over the past weekend as well? do you see putin having a little bit of an edge there in working with his client states in the region to make us focus in our own hemisphere and not in his neck of the woods? how do you see this balancing out betweens ha venezuela and ukraine? >> i think an exception in congress and to a certain degree in the media with the old
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vestiges of the cold war and think what putin is doing and not enough time thinking about what is happening in our own hemisphere. ultimately this is is about the transatlantic relationship. i don't want to overstate or understate the danger of what happens next in europe. this is incredibly destabilizing to the entire transatlantic relationship which is why it's important for us to focus on energy there. if we could do something about it because, again, convincing our european allies to impose sanctions on russia may change the situation on the ground over the course of time. we maybe have more tools when dealing with the situation in ukraine than the situation in venezuela. >> walter? >> yeah, let me toss something out to chuck, which is the fact that nato was, you know, founding to stop this sort of thing, to stop and contain soviet and russian aggression. we have used nato in other ways and probably not too wisely out of area of afghanistan.
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it seems to me if we are going to have real tools, if what senator murphy just said something we ought to worry about, we have to reconstitute nato to again be a force that will contain russian expansion and that will mean a whole move of the nato concept, including some spending and maybe even intermediate range nuclear forces being back on the table, to really get the russians attention. because we are not going to do it just by drawing red lines and chatting. >> well, it's interesting, walter. the white house was very hesitant to even use the word nato late last week, until nato nations reunited. it was my understanding -- i was surprised when the president came out, he didn't talk about each a cursory just throwing that out there, because the white house believes when you throw nato out there, it is a throwback to the cold war and there has been this concerted effort by the administration not to make any of this look like
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some sort of unilateral we are going back to the check on russia, to the east versus west dynamic, the cold war dynamic. they have been trying to fight that. now over the last 24 hours, you've seen suddenly nato has put out statements and now they are talking about certain things, but, you know, one of the reasons you talk about reconstituting nato. they have not put some of these old soviet republics. they want to be part of nay teen nato nations have been hesitant about doing it. the dirty little secret the reason they haven't allowed full membership for some of these former soviet republics. they know what the treaty says. the treaty says if a signor of the nato treaty is invaded by one country then everybody is obligated to fight back and a hesitant about doing that with the former soviet republics. two in the last six years had georgia or ukraine been part of
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nato, there would have been treaty obligations that would have kicked into a military response and that is something that nato nations are leery of. >> senator murphy, there's always a balance between toughness and being sensible. there is an awful lot of money that flows out of russia into european and what is the common sense, but punishing elements, that you could talk about in terms of really going after hurtihurt russia economically? >> russia can't operate without money from the banks. there is an estimate that suggests that two-thirds of the money coming out of russia every year come from elicit activities. if there was a combined sanctioning of the three largest russian banks from the united states and europe it would effectively shut down russia's economy. add to that the old guards of
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russia moving from their vacation homes in europe and have a dynamic on the ground. one additional thing about nato. look at it one way which chuck says if the countries were part of nato woue would have been required to respond but if they were part of rusch would never have invaded in the first place. i'm hopeful that georgia is getting on a path to join nato this year and, frankly, i'm hopeful that this ultimately will lead to ukraine joining nato as well. that frankly in the end might be the best way to protect those former republics from invasion like this in the cuts. >> senator, thanks for joining us this morning. chuck, we will see you coming up on "the daily rundown." what is coming up? >> busy day. year long look and texas in the spotlight. but also jeff goldberg is going to be on with a big interview
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with president obama. i'm guessing making netanyahu not a happy puppy this morning. >> see you an hour and a half from now. walter, stay with us. penny pritzker and inside the actor studio host james lipton to talk about the kos os. and rosie perez. up next, what david remnick has to say about president obama. first, bill karins with a look at this messy storm out there. >> an inch an hour through d.c. and delaware and to atlantic city, new jersey. as far as the snow goes, let's get right to the map and show you where the worst of the travel is. the area in white here. charlottesville to washington, d.c. snowing in richmond, virginia. they were 70 yesterday. snow over in new york city. another couple of hours in philadelphia. by the time all said and done, the snow totals are not that amazing. it's just the fact it's so cold
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and i don't think it's even close. when you look at the nuclear we got our fannies handed to us. >> every time the president goes on national television and threatens putin or anybody like putin, everybody's eyes roll, including mine. we have a weak and indecisive president that invites aggression. >> senator lindsey graham there talking about the president. katty kay, look at the scene there. you're supposed to be there in washington in a couple of hours and i don't know if you're going to make it. david remnick joins us. he writes in the new yorker the following. david, it's good to see you. >> good morning.
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>> tell us what is happening here. having lived in russia and covering it so long, what are we seeing right now? >> first of all, we should say there is no horrendous bloodshed. this is invasion of a sovereign country and russia perceives as its interest in ukraine and beginning first in the crimea peninsula which has been a scene of dispute for centuries. and for now, for now, what putin is saying is russia is asserting its interest and ukraine cannot be a part of europe. it's very simple. the way it's going about it is a very familiar pattern. there are russians, russian speaking people in all sorts of places in the form of the koestsoviet union. they are crying for help and somehow under did youress which
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ridiculous. it is a complicated situation. the ukrainian leadership there is in a struggle to assert its own legislatimacy. it was not elected. came to power on the streets. yanukovych was a corrupt leader and shot on his own people but came to power through election. this is all a very fuzzy picture that russia is taking advantage of. >> this is an invasion by any definition. troops are on the ground and he put himself in a country that has been sovereigned for a quarter of a century now. you say for now, this is what he is doing. where is he going with this? >> two weeks ago or a week ago i would have been surprised he would do this. now looking ahead to a week or two, i would be very surprised if he wants to spread and become very bloody but we don't know. remember, the eastern part of ukraine, the eastern part of ukraine is the economic center of the country. without the eastern ukraine
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there is no ukrainian economy and where all of the industry is and it's very russian. it's very russian. so the invasion could conceivably spread to the east. i don't think anybody has any interest in this happening. right now, we are in this kind of pause. atmosphere of terrible threat. reporters have said now there are jets flying over ukrainian air space, in addition to the kroops that are on the ground. it's very clear what putin wants. he wants to assert his interest there. i'm sure he would prefer not to lead to the total isolation of rus russia but we have to see. >> what leverage does the west have? of all things the united states and europe are looking at, the tools that they have what is the most effective thing getting putin to back down now but potentially also back down from any future invasions? >> the leverage is limited. unless you follow what lindsey
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graham have said and lindsey graham and john mccain have gone on "meet the press" i don't know how many years and want to invade and get involved militarily everywhere. what is lindsey graham suggesting? the united states send its troops to crimea and we have a military confrontation with russia? what is this asserting that obama is weak? i don't know. he hasn't made it clear. our leverage for now is economic and diplomatic. the g-8 conference. g-20. there is all kinds of economic leverage that can be pulled. remember, the united states also has a history of invasions that turned out horribly. horribly. you can be sure the russians on state-run television are asserting this all the time. a big part of putin psychology. who are they to lecture us? this is is also a big part of the picture. >> so off of that, david, given that vladimir putin, it seems, i'm told, has a sense that he
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wants to recapture what is in his mind some elements of the old soviet union and this would be part of that plan what does he fear? he clearly does not care what we say publicly with the secretary of state says, certainly not what lindsey graham says. what does he fear? >> he fears a repeat in russia what happened in ukraine twice. in 2004 people on the street in a sense brought down a government. then it's happened yet again. two years ago, putin returned to the presidency of russia. what was going on? gigantic demonstrations on the street of hundreds of thousands of people calling for a new politics. putin came back into office and he cracked down on this. at the same time as you're seeing the invasion of crimea you're seeing a crack down at home on people like the
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anti-corruption crusader on all kinds of members of the russian and pro democracy forces which are by no means the majority but putin finds them a threat. he despises those forces. he has come to really despise europe and the west in a way that was not evident in his rhetoric some years ago. that is the common enemy here. when you bring up something like the anti-gay propaganda law this is a piece in the larger picture of what you would call putinism. >> you did this amazing piece in "the new yorker" two weeks ago that looked at all of that psychology. what is the psychology behind putin right now? >> it's not about ideology. not about the old communist ideology. about the assertion of power and building of a strong russian state. in putin's psychology, russia where the soviet union collapsed in 1991 and the west is dancing in the end zone ever since.
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he resent that. he has to have some sort of idea of the usable past. a history that is not just bloodshed and oppression but something to be proud of. he has to reassert russia's strength on the world stage. he see is that for the yell yelsin period. this is all part of this larger psychology and new russian nationalism led by putin. >> he waited 15 minutes after the closing ceremony to go to ukraine. so much for the two and a half weeks of putting on the show. >> but the ukraine events were happening as we were sitting there in sochi. >> it was all being planned while you guys were sitting there in sochi. >> while we wiillie was watchin bobsled. >> i was dialed into curling. the piece putin goes to work, check it on online if you want to understand what is happening better. thank you, dave. the new issue of "the new yor r
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one of the moments i have personally acting was there is a scene in this film where ron goes, i'm dying. those two words, i'm dying, i didn't expect it but it just -- it hit me and floored me and not like a gut punch. a soul puvenlg. saying those two words floored me in a way that i think -- grounded me since then in a different way than i was before. >> welcome back to "morning joe." that was matthew mcconaughey speaking about his role in "dallas buyers club." joining us is mr. lipton. an honor to have you here this morning. good to see you. >> thank you very much. i'm pleased to be here. >> you were in a unique position. we watched these people from the outside and see them in award shows. you get to know them. you have these long conversations you hear about their lives and their
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characters. talk about matthew mcconaughey for starters in the role he played. >> remember inside that is a master class of the actors drama school. there are with me and the students four or five hours and there is a bonding. i was confessed i was rooting for him last night though i lost bruce dern who was also on my show. but matthew was brilliant on my show. i think his performance in that film was extraordinary but like an example of how elegant matthew mcconaughey is. with all that he's had on his mind the last couple of weeks, on friday, just a few days ago, this arrived for me. he had talked on my show about the book that had changed his life. he took the time to send it to me. it arrived on friday and here is the book that found me. >> wow. >> thanks for having me on itas.
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it was a pleasure and first class affair. just keep living. mcconaughey. now that is classy! right? >> yeah, absolutely. >> he had other things on his mind but bothered to do this and send me the book. >> that is incredible. >> how about his performance in this film "dallas buyers club" he and jared leto together. >> they were two great performances. generally speaking, i thought the oscars turned out right last night all the way around. certainly with jared leto and certainly with matthew mcconaughey. a remarkable performance. people talk about the weight loss, the weight loss but so much more going on than weight loss, for heaven's sake. he is an amazing actor. he told me on the show i made a decision and made it to other people as well. i decided that i was not going to do it any more. i was doing fine and doing well and i sat down with my wife and agent and said things will
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change. it will get quiet down here a couple of years. he turned down one film i understand offered him $15 million. how many people would turn down that much money for three or four months work? he did. simply because he didn't want to be identified any more as that kind of an actor, though, it's an honorable kind of acting. but he made up his mind. he did it. i think there have been very few examples that i can think of in the past couple of decades when somebody said i'm going to do this and i don't care what it costs me. this is where i'm going. and he went there and it arrived. >> it is so striking, though, watching him and watching his career, you know, which you just referred to, that span of time he made movies, okay, fine. some of them funny and some of them not. now you see him a true detective which is just incredible. incredible. this movie, with matthew mcconaughey right now, are we in one of those periods it happened
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to brando and dah ne de near. >> you must remember the actor does not write the script. they forget that sometimes. they blame them for shows and movies and television shows that are not good enough for them but it's not the actor's fault. the choices are the actor's responsibility. my teacher taught us the talent lies in the choice. you could discern the talent of an actor by discerning the actor's choices. that means not only the choice of the vehicle, but the choice from moment-to-moment. the great actors are the ones who never, ever let you get ahead of them. brando was a perfect example. everything he did was surprising and then ultimately everything he did was absolutely inevitable as the only choice he could have made but you couldn't outguess him. matthew mcconaughey has arrived
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at that place in his career. he has been a wonderful actor a long time. don underestimate him in the past but what he has done now i think not only changes the whole question for him, but for us as well in looking at him. >> mr. lipton, as you talk about writing, a friend of this show john ridley winning for best actor screen and "12 years a slave." lupita, we just loved her. do you think they got it right for their awards? >> i think once got credit for one of the most remarkable achievements of the last decade. a marvel. i turned to my guests at home it's going to be "12 years as a slave. >> and say you were the best
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film. >> "gravity" won seven oscars so well recognized last night. >> absolutely well recognized. it is a remarkable piece of work and sandra bullock was giving a great acting performance as well. i'm a pilot and i sit on the edge of my chair through that film but, at the same time i didn't believe a minute of it. she couldn't have done what she did. that part of it didn't make sense and why i didn't think it was the best movie but technologically showing the way in which she did the remarkable and impossible things i think were exceptional and recognized. i thought they got it right last night. i liked ellen degeneres last night. >> how does one get to the james lipton party? >> i'll leave my card. >> that was also an invitation, do you know? >> we have all year to work on this. the charm. >> send him the book that found you?
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maybe you'll get there. >> isn't that nice? >> that is beautiful. a lovely touch. >> thanks for having me on. that is his motto. that derived when his father died when he was making film "dazed and confused." he had to adjust to it. he was very young and he was shattered by his father's death and he came up with this idea of just keep living and he has never let go of it for one second and he wrote it in his dedication in this book. he's a very -- he knows who he is. he's known who he was for a long time. not every actor does know who he is. mcconaughey knows who he is and now we know who he is. >> well said. >> very nice! >> well said. it's an honor to have you here any day but especially the morning after the oscars. james lipton, thank you so much. >> thank you very much. nice to be here even though i'm a bit tired.
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experts and really better understand the different types of technology, what is happening there. >> this, obviously, has been a very thorny issue for this administration the last couple of years with the revelations about the nsa. how seriously is this administration taking privacy concerns that average americans like us have about who knows what about us? >> well, the administration takes the issue very seriously and, hence, the reason the president asked us in 90 days to really think about what are the issues that are relevant for government, what are the issues relevant for business, what are the issues that we should be thinking about for the consumer as well. so we are very focused on it. it's a real inquiry, though, right now. there is not thought about exactly what the outcomes are going to be. and what are the policy implications, but, rather, what are the questions that we ought to be asking ourselves. >> you just come back from a trip to silicon valley and you were talking while there about immigration reform. i'm sure you got a lot of supporters out there in california for the idea. but you're up against head winds, political head winds in
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washington that are making that a near impossibility. >> i think, first of all, i think there is a real recognition. we have a moral responsibility to deal with immigration issues. as well as there is an economic opportunity. studies show that if we were to pass immigration reform, you'd have about 1.4 trillion dollars added to our economy. plus, this is, obviously, legislation that would create opportunities for many, many different kinds of companies, as well as individuals. do you know that 57% of ph.d.s in math and science in this country are immigrants? and 50% of ph.d.s are immigrants. these with people remember educating them and asking them to leave our country. it's crazy. i was with on our trip with an individual who was there with his cousin from south africa. he is running a fantastic company here called solar city. we want people for that to stay
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in the united states. it's good for our economy. >> amen to that. michael steele has a question for you in washington. >> madam secretary, good to see you this morning. >> good morning. >> on the job front, there is, obviously, a lot going on in this economy that,, you know, is just taking off. the market is strong. there is still this gap, though, that exists between main street and wall street. how do you see, over the course of the next few months, really bringing that into clarity for small business owners? what incentives do you see them getting from this administration to get in this game in a different way than they have up until now? >> well, you know, one of the big opportunities that we are very focused on in the department of commerce is training our work force. what i've been in this job for about eight months. i probably talked to about a thousand business leaders and what have i learned from these business leaders? they are all struggling to find enough people who are capable of filling the jobs that they have open. and so we need to be training people for the jobs that exist today and making a it easier for
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people to find those jobs. that is one area that the administration is very focused on. we did a big effort on long-term unemployment about two or three weeks ago. and what we found is if what we if you talk to a business leader and they would say, you know, we're absolutely open to hiring long-term unemployed, but actually if you looked in their policies, there was a real bias against it, so we've had 300 companies sign up to say they're going to hire the long-term unemployed. so we're working very hard on this issue. >> madam secretary, let me take you back to your cyber task force. are you all, or should the commerce department looking at consumer cyber security now that you've had the target and the marriott and the neiman marcus, and why are we still using credit cards that look like they're, like, 40 years old, with magnetic strips? can't there be some consortium we put together that protects me when i use my credit card in. >> i think there's a lot we need to be doing around cyber
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security. for example, we just at the commerce department, through nist, created the cyber security framework for -- and that's a framework being used not on by critical infrastructure companies, which is what it was created for, but it's now allowing all businesses to use a common language, common framework to assess the cyber security standards. we need to be doing more and more along that lien. what's so fantastic about that effort, it was absolutely a public/private partnership. we worked together collaboratively with the private sector to come up with the framework. and so, this is the kind of tools that we ought to be using, whether you're applying it to credit cards or critical infrastructure. >> with economic sanctions and other possible tenths against russia on the table, how intertwined is our economy with the russian economy right now? >> it's so disappointing what's happening with russia right now. last week i was with the economic minister from russia.
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all of the work is going for naught. and this is a big disappointment. the russians are not behaving in a fashion that is at all acceptable. >> eight months into the job, already with a very full plate around the world. secretary pritzker, thank you very much for taking time. >> thanks for having me. >> tomorrow, we'll speak with jim demint and russell simmons will join us here on set. and plenty of enthusiasm last night at the oscars. that is until louis berg dorff ran into larry david. >> "morning joe"? this is an insult to "morning joe," okay? you're insulting "morning joe." >> look at how good looking i am. >> there's no insult here. >> joe doesn't care about show business. >> who are you wearing? you look wonderful. >> who am i wearing? who gives a [ bleep ]. who am i wearing. >> when you get in a scene, matthew mcconaughey beats his
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chest and hums -- >> are you out of your mind? >> maybe, a little bit. >> i would think about, what would larry david do. >> and you do that? >> i act accordingly. it's so hard. it's really hard. yeah. ooh, what do i do now? >> i don't know. >> it's very hard. ♪ ♪ ♪
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♪ last time, for instance, when i was here, cate blanchett was nominated, meryl streep was nominated.
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leonardo dicaprio was nominated. martin scorsese was nominated. so different. [ laughter ] the most important thing in life is love and friendship and family, and if people don't have those things, well, then, they usually get into show business. [ laughter ] so. you should think of yourselves as winners. not all of you, but the people who have won before, should think of themselves as the winners. [ laughter ] i know what you're saying, ellen, you've been chosen to host and that's the highest award there is. thank you. [ laughter ] >> good morning, 8:00 on the east coast and 5:00 a.m. as you wake up out west. back on set katy kay, mark halperin, michael steele, mile halperin. who watched? >> i did until about 9:30. >> the thumbnail, how was it the
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show? >> it was all solid. the tweet she did, retweeted tweet of all time, was, i think, embl emblemattic of them. >> the best picture at the end of the show, as most people expected, "12 years a slave." "american hustle" shut out. >> that did surprise me. >> tied for the most nominations and it got nothing at all. "gravity" "american hustle" entered the evening each with 10 nominations but "gravity" took home the most, including serve phone directing and cine cinemaography. and "12 years a slave" wenting for best picture, and john
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ridley won for best adammed screenplay. last night he spoke about his big break. >> i started writing in sitcoms a long time ago, and at that time i was very fortunate to meet a script coordinator who was gracious enough to read everything i wrote, and when she thought it was ready, she put a smiling face at the end, and i knew it was job done. gail, seeing you here tonight and smiling, you take away all that soul-crushing inadequacy. >> what you need to know about john ridley, as incredibly talented and great, and gentleman he is, he got his roots here at "morning joe." that's what we like to say. >> you gave him the idea. >> i guess about seven years ago, in secaucus, in a former liz claiborne outlet, wherever our studio was over there, joe, mika, myself, john ridley sat around a table -- >> he went on to win an oscar. >> yeah, and i'm still sitting around the table. it was so cool for all of us to
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see john sitting up there. he's just such a great guy, so talented. we're so proud of him. >> yes, absolutely. to all of that. >> incredible guy. as he would tell you, as great as "12 years a slave" "undercover brother" was the greatest piece of writing. we're so proud of you. lieu pete toe nyong'o won for her performance in the same film. >> it doesn't escape me for one moment that so much joy in my life is thanks to so much pain in someone else's. when i look down at this golden statue may it remind me and every little child that no matter where you're from, your dreams are valid. >> okay, how big a star -- >> oh, what a dress. a great actress, but that was a fantastic dress. in a night when there were not -- i don't know what you think, but around the table, there were not many standout dresses. that was fabulous.
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>> i noticed her dress, but i didn't notice -- >> what else do you look at the oscars? >> film editing. >> matthew mcconaughey continued to clean up this awards season. he won for "dallas buyer club." >> every day, every week, every month, every year of my life, my hero is 10 years away. i'll never be my hero. i'll never attain that. that's just fine, because that keeps me with somebody to keep on chasing. to any of us, whatever it is we look up forward to, to whoever we're chasing, to that, i say, all right, all right, all right. i say just keep living. >> all right, all right, all right. >> onhammond told me, those were his first words on screen, all right, all right, all right. >> yeah. he was incredible. he's had -- what a run he's having, "true detective" and now wins the oscar. jared leto also won for his
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supporting role in "dallas buyers club." cate blanchett winning best actress in "blue jasmine." anybody? >> yeah, fantastic. >> host ellen degeneres, as mark said, essentially breaking the internet, disrupting twitter for nearly 20 minutes when she tweeted this selfie featuring the biggest names in hollywood. bradley holding the camera. brad and angelina, julia roberts, jennifer lawrence, meryl streep over her shoulder. so far, it's been retweeted more than 2 million times. >> glasses. >> he scored an epic spot right there. which is great. and poor liza minnelli in the back, she couldn't get in there. >> you can hardly see lupita, but her brother is there. >> yes. broke the previous record for retweets held by president obama when he was re-elected. a good night. >> it was a good night. what i saw was a good night.
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>> pizza delivered. >> good, clean fun. obviously big news happening around the world. >> a lot of news over the weekend. wow, what a busy weekend. old foes are sizing each other up, as russian forces take control of crimea. secretary of state john kerry will travel to ukraine as a show of support for the new government. over the weekend, thousands of russian troops moved in, some in unmarmed uniforms, others surrounding this army base in the strategically important region. the prime minister of ukraine has called the action a declaration of war. russian ships are off the coast and the head of the ukrainian navy has surrendered. vladimir putin has justified the moves say revolutionary groups in ukraine have endangered the lives of russians there. it's not yet clear which course of action the united states or nato will take, and if anything will curtail putin's army short of force. president obama and top officials spent the weekend phoning european leaders to try to build a united front.
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european leaders are exploring economic sanctions, isolating russia diplomatically and damaging the ruble, the strongest language, though, came from the secretary of state. >> president putin is not operating from a place of strength here. yon kovic was thrown out, despite putin's support. this is an act of aggression that's completely trumped up in terms of its pretext. it's really 19th century behavior in the 21st century. the fact is he'll lose on the international stage. russia will lose. the russian people will lose. he'll lose the glow from the olympics. he won't have a sochi g8. he may not even remain in the g8 if this continues. >> joining us from ukraine is nbc news foreign correspondent ian williams. ian, there have been protests breaking out all over ukraine. do people think that russia is
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trying to foment unrest? >> that's the big fear, they're trying to create chaos, particularly in the eastern ukraine, in order to justify further intervention. you may see over my shoulder the pro-russian camp here, the second biggest cities in ukraine, dominates the heartland. the protesters are surrounding this vast statue of lenin. they have flowers on the barricades. they have pictures of their own dead, riot policemen who died in kiev. at the weekend, we saw very violent and sinister developments in this city. violence when more than 100 protesters were injured in clashes between pro-russian supporters and supporters of the government in kiev. then, a hard-core of pro-russian
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protesters stormed the government building here, taking control of it and hoisting the russian flag on the roof. now, today, the riot police are back in control in the ukrainian flag is up, but again, all this stoking fears that russia's game plan here will be to so unrest in this region in order to justify intervention. but, of course, here it may not -- it won't be as clinical as what we've seen in crimea, because although it's russian speaking here, although there are a lot of ethnic russians suspicious towards that new government in kiev, it will be far more messy, because there won't be that degree of support of a russian intervention. katy? >> ian williams, thank you very much. let's go to david now in washington. david, how precarious is this situation at the moment? >> well, talking to officials of the u.s. government last night, they think it's very precarious. secretary kerry said it bluntly,
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this is a brazen act of aggression by russia, initially in crimea, perhaps elsewhere. it's a violation of russia's international obligations under various agreements. the u.s. just doesn't know whether putin is moving toward a confrontation across ukraine that would challenge the new government in kiev, or whether this is really going to be limited to the areas most strategic to russia in the crimea, where the russian fleet is based. as one person said it to me last night, we're really playing this by ear. secretary kerry had strong words about the diplomatic and economic consequences that russia will pay for this action, but it's obvious in every statement that's made that the u.s. does not seek, does not want a military challenge to this action. i was told that not a ship is moving in the mediterranean, not a troop from nato garrisons has
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been put on maneuvers that might be seen as provocative. so for the moment, the response is very much diplomatic, economic, perhaps sanctions. >> so, david, now that we understand that americans now understand seemingly that president putin does not care what we think, does not care about the language that secretary kerry used yesterday on american television, is it now sort of a conundrum about for the united states and for the president of the united states to figure out, do we prove that we are tough, tougher than putin, which is maybe impossible, or do we try to prove that we are sensible and how do we do this? >> well, ideally, the two converge in a policy that makes putin pay a cost for his actions, a real and lasting cost, while at the same time avoiding, you know, a catastrophic military confrontation between nato and
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russia. and it's walking that line that's really the challenge to the administration. the u.s. has not been loud or forceful in the weeks in the run-up to this, and i think people may fault the administration for not having said more publicly. again, the sense i get from people is they know this is really a dangerous situation. president obama talked for 90 minutes with putin on saturday. that is described as a tough conversation, in which president obama really said, these are the costs, the potential costs for you and russia if you persist, if you don't roll back this invasion. i'm sure the president was unspecific about costs other than diplomatic. the most obvious thing is the g8 summit, this big showcase that putin was planning, a diplomatic version of the olympics, if you will, on president evans, that's not going to happen. >> okay, the president faces
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another tough front, though, congress. while members aren't calling for u.s. military involvement, many are less than impressed with president obama's performance so far. >> i think putin is playing chess and i think we're planning marbles, and i don't think it's even close. so if you look at the nuclear negotiations, we got our fannies handed to us. >> every time the president goes on national television and threatens putin or anyone like putin, everybody's eyes roll, including mine. we have a weak and indecisive president. that invites aggression. >> and they write, in part, in global politics, ukraine is in particular casualty of mr. obama's failure to enforce his red line on syria, when the leader of the world's only superpower issues a military ultimatum and blinks, others notice. adversaries and allies in asia and the middle east will be watching president obama's response now. china has its eyes on japanese
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islands. iran is counting on u.s. weakness in nuclear talks. the ukrainians can't be alone to face russia. -- to join the european union and nato if it desires. the world is full of revisionist powers and bad actors, looking to -- mr. obama's retreat to global leadership and mr. putin is the leading edge of what could quickly become a new world disorder. willie, criticism for the president from all fronts, but very few people actually suggesting that there should be some sort of american military response here. everyone focused on the economy. >> yeah, mostly about sanctions. let's go to michael steele down in washington. michael, obviously, among many other things, this move by president putin is a test of the west and specifically united states and obama. what should the president should do right now? >> well, i think that president putin will find and realize that
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the move into crimea was a move to far, and i think it solidifies the president's ability to go public in a big way, in a strong way, irrespective of the -- those who want to chide him on the right or the left about what he has not said up till now, to lay down the law on sanctions, to lay down the law on the g8, certainly, you know, doing the obvious, pulling out of meetings, things like that on the diplomatic level, means something. it will hit russia in a big way. and i really think the ace in the hole for the president will be the bank, the banking system in russia, which is very much tied into the european market and into the american economy in ways that i think putin will regret pursuing this line of work -- this line of work, if you will -- this afront to what everyone has taken as an international standard of
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respecting democratic process. i think the other side of this, on the political piece, yeah, you have a lot of folks saying well, the president didn't do this, the president didn't do that. as you noted, short of telling, you know, the president to send troops in to russia, i don't think there's much you're going to see in terms of noise from the right or the left in washington. they're going to give the president the latitude he needs to do this right. it's moving fast. and i think the president will play cards this week that will show he's prepared to take putin on. >> all right. mark, to michael's point about trying to take the ego of vladimir putin to the world stage and diminish it that way, especially off the heels of sochi, where he had a successful winter games, but is michael right? is that what the president needs to do, cement the image that putin is not an honest broker and we cannot pretend he is given world events, given what he's done with this aggressive
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move of putting troops in crimea? >> angela merkel told the president that putin is not in touch with reality. he's in another world. this guy is ruthless and the best thing i think the president is going for him is brief the heck out of congress to keep them on board, with the exception perhaps of a few issues involving finances. the european community is united. the president has to be seen as the united nato front. and i don't think he has a lot of cards to play. the "wall street journal" editorial board says the president -- the media saying there aren't a lot of cards to play. there's not a lot in there that the president isn't already considering. putin, it's like dealing with the north koreans. it's russian roulette with a guy who is just unstable, and isn't going to play by the right rules. i think time is on putin's side, and the best the president can do is have a unified world coalition and hope putin blinks. it's very difficult to see why
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putin would blink. those military bases are too valuable to him. >> politico says marco rubio is aiming for a comeback with conservatives. what the florida republican is doing to rehab his political profile. mike allen has that in the morning "playbook." first, bill karins has the look at the forecast this morning. >> it's mid-january, willie, snow in the mid-atlantic, snow across the heartland, and the snow in the worst in mid-atlantic and around washington, d.c. look at the airport delays. not showing any. why? almost all of the flights were cancelled. over 2,000 flights were cancelled, pre-emptively before the storm arrived. that's why we're not seeing horrible delays. the same in richmond where the snow is moving. temperatures are plenty cold enough now. it's 25 in d.c. the temperatures in richmond are falling. you're going from sleet to snow shortly. the snow totals, it's not earth shattering, not even close to
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the biggest storms this winter. but somewhere around 6 inches in d.c. when we're said and done. it's almost done in philadelphia, probably right around 3 inches. no more snow in new york. richmond, you get yours during the day. the cold is just horrible. people in the middle of the country, the sleet yesterday, still on the roads, it's horrible. be careful traveling. and it won't get much warmer during the day today, and for that matter, for much of the next month, week and a half, two weeks? i don't see any warmth in sight. this is ridiculous. you're watching "morning joe." so i tri ed depend so i last weekend. tri and it made the difference between hearing about my daughter's gym meet, and being there. yeah! nailed it! unlike the bargain brand, depend gives you new fit-flex®, our best protection. it's a smooth and comfortable fit with more lycra strands. hi sweetie! get your free sample at depend.com.
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welcome back to "morning joe." let's look at the morning papers from our parade of papers, the "washington post," hundreds of protestors arrested outside the white house yesterday, protesting the keystone pipeline. 400 people were taken into custody after strapping themselves to the white house fence and blocking the sidewalk there. demonstrators called on president obama to reject the keystone pipeline. they say it will worsen global warming. most of the 1,200 protesters were students. in "the boston globe," the murder trial for oscar pistorius is under way in south africa. he is charged with fatally shooting his girlfriend in his home on valentine's day in 2013. the athlete, known as bladerunner, pleaded not guilty though morning to all four charges against him. he claims he thought steenkamp was an intruder. the trial sex pekted to last
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three weeks. mayor de blasio is blocking the head of the charter schools cancelling classes tuesday and bussing parents and students to albany for a protest. de blasio was against charter program when is he ran for mayor. he said he's reversing bloomberg's poor decisions. >> in "the new york times," scientists have found a rare gene mutation that protects people from getting type 2 diabetes despite their age and weight. the gene reduces the risk of getting diabetes by two-thirds. drug companies hope to use the mutation to develop new medications, but it could take 10 to 20 years to get that drug onto the market. "the chicago tribune" jimmy fallon taking a dip in icy michigan yesterday, and he did it in a full suit and tie. thousands of people jumped into the cold wear for the polar plunge to raise money for the special olympics.
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jimmy doing it with chicago mayor rahm emanuel. mayor emanuel agreed to appear on "the tonight show" in exchange for fallon's participation, so jimmy flew to chicago, jumped in the icy water, got on a plane, came back to new york. the temperature of the water, 32 degrees. >> is that what we want to do if we want to get on "morning joe"? >> was that rahm emanuel in the bear suit? >> rahm was in one of the green shirts. i like the full suit and tie look. well done, sir. >> with us, the white house chief correspondent mike allen for politico, and a look at the world-famous "playbook." one of the lead stories is marco rubio aiming for a comeback. the question is, why does he need a comeback with conservatives? >> he had a really rough year last year. conservatives turned on him because of the leadership he played on immigration. and when vandehei unveiled the
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"playbook snap shot" of the 2016 race on "morning joe," we called rubio recovering, and we're able to put more meat on that bone. senator rubio wants to show he's aggressive and agile. he's one of the first republicans to talk about venezuela over the weekend. it was senator rubio out there giving an eight-point plan for what president obama should be doing with ukraine on the domestic side, we've seen him talking about a republican war on poverty. we've seen him talking about how college students can do better. he's going to play a role in some key midterm races. he's already started doing some fund-raising, even down in the south where they don't like his stand on immigration. and, willie, on the foreign policy front, we just saw senator rubio finish up swings in asia and europe. and so, he wants to show that he's the whole package, not just a great communicator. they report in the story it
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looks like a presidential run by rubio is increasingly likely, and we saw that yesterday in his comments on "meet the press" to david gregory, where he said, well, there's a lot of problems in this country. i'm going to decide either this year or early next. it's just whether i think i can help. >> michael steele, let me ask you. is it as transparent as that, the foundational groundwork for 2016? >> i think so. it's been transparent for a while. i'm still not convinced that the senator puts both toes into -- into a presidential run. i think that for a lot of reasons that mike just laid out, he's got to reassure his base/tea party supporters at home and those around the country that he's still with them. the issue of immigration won't go away. there's other thorny issues that he and other senators who are tea party backed will have to navigate over the next few months -- gay marriage for one, the civil rights legislation that needs to be addressed.
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you know, the talk is great and the positioning is, you know, part of the process. but ultimately, it will boil down to how you vote and what you fight for. and those are battles that the senator still will have to work through. >> all right. another story, mike allen, you're looking at is weed in california. california has a reputation of being one of the most liberal states, about its democratic governor is concerned about the possible side effects of legalizing marijuana. here's governor jerry brown on "meet the press" yesterday. >> -- if there's advertising and legitimacy, how many people can get stoned and still have a great state or a great nation? the world is pretty dangerous, very competitive. we need to stay alert, if not 24 hours a day, more than some of the pot heads might be able to put together. >> mike allen, that's a question for our age. how many people can get stoned? >> well, that's right. and jerry brown was a remarkable messenger for the 75. he announced last week he's going to run again. he's already the longest-serving
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california governor, going for a fourth term. someone needs to send a memo to groff brown, and that is that california has medicinal marijuana, and you talk to anyone in california, it's pretty darn easy to get pot if you want to. >> yeah. >> mike, speaking of getting stoned, where are you appearing from today? it looks like an assisted living community room in the background. where are you? >> i'm in the prestigious washington bureau of nbc news. >> oh, really? >> yeah. "meet the press" background. >> across from andrea mitchell. >> that's quite a set with the blue lights and -- >> kind of a nightclub -- >> we'll bring a few more books to put in there. >> mikes opium den. >> the red thing is clearly a modified bong, right? >> look off-camera. politico's mike allen. what's driving today's market? cnbc brian sullivan has
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>> i heard barnicle would be here. how could i miss that? >> let's lead off, though, honestly, with the situation in ukraine, how the markets are going to react to that. we saw some of the reaction last week. but it wasn't very much. the markets did great. >> yeah, but not this morning, thomas. >> okay. >> good morning, by the way. futures e s indicating a drop f the futures. the prediction on where things will go. here's the reality. the ukrainian stock market is about the sap market cap as walt disney. itself alone is not an important economy for the world. a couple of dhengs. number one, people get scared. 6,000 russian troops reported in crimea. that makes people nervous. they sell stocks, buy gold, buy bonds. that tends to be what happened. you have major pipelines, from russia to western europe. western europe doesn't rely on ukraine for heat and natural gas, but if it didn't have ukraine, it would be a problem. we've seen the pipeline problems in '06 and '09.
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so ukraine is strategically important. and i think that has people nervous today. >> they're tremendous. when you talk about pipelines, spider veins traveling through there. >> huge amounts of natural gas. two ones, soyuz and the brotherhood. when you hear anything with those -- >> both of those are shows on fx, by the way. >> "wall street journal" reporting, what people are doing with their student loans. or not doing is a better way to put it. >> yeah. according to a new report in large part, a lot of the people are not actually being students with their student loan debt. obviously, student loan debt has been a hot topic. a lot of people are taking the loans either to live on or to just do other stuff with. for example, there was one report from a for-profit education company where the average loan gave out $5,200, but there were 42,000 people
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that never actually took a credit. so one wonders -- because these loans are, a, guaranteed and, b, super low cost, 2.5, 2 -- i'll still paying law school loans from 10 1/2 years ago, maybe i should go back, because if you're attending, you don't have to pay. as long as you're enrolled, you can defer. i'm going to go back to school and defer my loans. take the thomas robert course in tie-knotting. >> you'd get in there. i went to the mike barnicle. >> yeah, he's wearing a sock around his neck. >> no, this is a knit tie. >> is that the new then in. >> yeah. >> it's so old it's new. >> yes. bringing them back. >> 19th century. a blunted mix. >> a good time. he was in "ripper street" a cameo. >> brian sullivan, thanks. >> appreciate it, guys. >> louis at the oscars. you have to stick around for this, brian.
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louis at the oscars. >> i thought you were getting your budget cut. >> no, no, we're expanding. expanding the footpresent. and we ask the stars how to prepare for a big role, and some of them answered him honestly. and we have my conversation with rosie perez, out with a new memoir. "morning joe" is back in a moment. [ doctor ] and in a clinical trial versus lipitor,
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♪ [ crying ] >> i had him, i looked up the road, and i thought it was going to be safe, and the wheels bumped and i opened my arms. he wasn't --
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>> oh, so it was your fault? hmm? it wasn't the accident? >> i was holding him. >> you held your baby. >> yes. and the lawyer -- i didn't tell him the truth. >> i understand. so you're also -- >> wow, it's hard to believe that scene from the 1993 film "fearless" over 20 years ago. here with us now the actress, rosie perez, who received an oscar nomination for that performance. rosie is out with a new book about her hollywood career, personal struggles, "handbook for an unpredictable life." rosie, so nice to have you here to talk about this. as we look back on that scene and just to remind everybody, over 20 years ago, can you remember back to what it was like filming that, how tough it was for you to go that emotionally deep? >> it was very tough to go there, because it was the first time i was asked to be naked and vulnerable in a real honest way.
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you know, as the book shows, there's a part of me that was always hiding. and so, that scene is very poignant and it terrified me. and every time i watch it now, as a grownup, i go, wow. >> so let's talk about that. the life that prepared you to get to that point, that's brought you into our lives for all these years, and we're so lucky to have you as a part of our lives, but it's based on your childhood growing up in brooklyn. there were tough things you had to overcome. how hard was it to go back and sit down and reflect on that and put it together for us to pursue? >> there was some distance, because i'm talking about things that happened over 40 years ago, and with regard to stuff in the entertainment industry, over 25 years ago. still, it was tough. even though i was removed from it, and i moved on, to go back and have it on the written page was really difficult, because then that meant it's out there forever.
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>> in the book, you talk about sister ranata and a parochial schoolkid, you had a physician altercation. i grew up going to parochial school, so there's instances where rulers come out and nuns were a little, shall we say, physical. but explain that moment in time for you. >> well, they weren't just a little physical. they were extremely abusive. not all of the nuns at the convent. there were some wonderful nuns that enriched my life and i thank them for it. but this one particular nun just had it out for me, because i just had this inner spirit and this quality that just wouldn't be denied, and she couldn't stand that. and she wanted to control me. and she didn't just hit me with a ruler, she beat me, like, a lot. >> and so, you got to a point where you weren't going to take it anymore. >> after several beatings, you know, to the point of blood, one day she was smacking me in the face, and i just smacked her
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back. and it wasn't premeditated. it just was a knee-jerk reaction. i had enough. and my spirit was really fighting her, not me. and then, she just went full tilt on me to the point where my body went limp. and i remember laying in the bed just saying to myself, i am going to get her back. and i went on an intentional silence war. it drove her crazy. i refused to speak to her. and for, like, two, three weeks. and inside i was, like, you can't break me. >> well, you've definitely shown an unbreakable spirit as you've had to get through hollywood all these decades. and as we think about the discovery you went through, is it really true, a bootie contest? >> yes, it's true. it's true. >> i was trying to say that as best as we could on tv. a bootie contest. >> yes. >> explain how you got involved in that. >> well, i was on "soul train" and they invited some of the
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"soul train" dancers and it just coincide i was leaving los angeles, i'd had enough of it, and i wanted to go back home to brooklyn. i was out there for college. i was a biochemistry major. and so, it was my last night in los angeles. we go to this club, and we realize it's a promotion for spike's movie "school days," and they had a contest to see which black woman had the biggest butt in the night club, and i made fun of it, ridiculing the whole situation, bouncers come to get me down, and i think they're going to throw me out. that wasn't the case. spike lee wanted to meet the girl. and he said tonight is fate. >> that meant you got cast in "do the right thing." >> yeah, an unpredictable life. i was a college student. i never had any aspirations to be in the entertainment industry, and i kept telling him, i'm not an actress. and he said, yes, you are. and i thank him for him.
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look at that, look at that, last night's academy awards featuring a-list actors, visionary directors, the masters of special effects, and louis. >> no! you're kidding me. our entertainment reporter hit the red carpet in search of oscar gold. louis, take it away. ♪ >> it's oscars night and i'm at the hottest carpet in town, the 2014 "vanity fair" party. why this party? why is it so special? >> i think they just know how to throw a party. >> longevity always makes something classic. >> everybody's here. >> there's no hustler party. >> he's special and unique and
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he knows how to do it. >> a jungle gym. >> it's the a-list of all a-lists. it's amazing what greatness has done over the past decade. >> what happened? >> can i spin you? is that okay? i want to spin you. yes. >> don't let me trip. >> don't trep. yeah, that is beautiful. >> see matthew mcconaughey, and before he gets into a keen, he starts the chest bump, what do you do? >> you have to find your inspiration from whatever truth there is in that scene. it's all about the scene to me. >> it's a moment of calm, like, trying to be quiet. >> pray. >> you pray? >> pray. >> sometimes i'll have, like, a little shot. i have problems. no, i'm fine. i'm not an alcoholic. >> i do soul cycle. listen to beyonce. >> that's kind of personal.
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>> i [ bleep ]. >> i also pump my chest. matthew is the first actor to do it on screen, it's what we all do. >> i take a shot of liquor. >> make sure i breathe and relax. >> just feeling sexy. have to be confident. just suck your stomach in. >> suck it in. >> yeah. you know, as a man i would not do the hip. i'd just like -- >> be more masculine. >> masculine, hey, what's up. >> i box a little bit with my trainer. kiss a few girls on the way to the stage, and gets the heart pumping. >> channel my inner mcconaughey. >> i rub oils into my chest. scented oils. >> can you show me? >> no, what are you, a perv? >> are you out of your mind? >> a little bit. >> i think what would larry david do, and act accordingly. >> how are you feeling right now? >> feeling every cliche every winner ever felt. it's amazing and wonderful and i'm thankful. >> your speech, i thought, was the best speech of this evening. >> thank you.
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>> was it rehearsed? was it prepared it? >> i prepared some words, but really you have toke from the heart. i was there. i had a chance to talk about my mother, my brother, to talk about aids, to talk about equality, to talk about freedom and dreams, and that's what was important to me. >> you're incredible, man. look at this. look at this. whoa. this is so cool, man. >> it looks good on you. >> thank you very much. >> louis did a nice job there. jared leto did a great squob with the speech. ukraine, venezuela, talked about his mom, his brother. the aids crisis. louis did a good job. i think we'll make louis happen if it's the last damn thing we do. >> that's a tough job. the most amazing element of the piece was he actually gave the oscar back to jared leto. >> we at least think he did. what did we learn today? stick around.
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right? >> see you tomorrow, folks. >> very anxious. and let that be a lesson, kids, god does answer your prayers if you pray hard enough. tomorrow night, mayor ford and gone zoe from the muppets will be here together. it will be fun. time to tell you what we learned today. mike barnicle. what did you learn today? >> i learned once again that vladimir putin does not care. doesn't care. >> this is true. katy kwa? >> and i learned that we don't have many options. >>ful president obama could stare down putin the way larry david -- >> he chewed him up and spit him out. >> the greatest salesman in the world. very cool. >> michael steele in washington, what did you learn?
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>> the others are saying that obama's foreign policy is fantasy. there's a lot of treacherous road ahead for us. >> all right. i learned that our good buddy, john ridley, is our favorite of the oscar winner class. sir, you've come a long way from is he caw -- >> thank you, william. it's a cold war flashback sending chills up the spine of the west. while vladimir putin is getting an earful, are economic sanctions enough to make russia reverse course? secretary kerry heads to ukraine later today. back at home, it may actually be chillier inside than outside. when president obama and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu meet today. we have new details from the reporter who sat down with the president to preview the meeting of the upcoming mideast peace talks. plus, whether you're talking presidents, governors, or